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  1. Gear

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    Here's a little background, I'm taking Chinese as an elective at my high school, and we recently got a new teacher named, Let's say Mrs. Chen. Mrs. Chen was a former chinese tour guide, immigrated to the U.S., she's pursuing a teaching degree at an american university and at the same time teaching at our highschool.

    She's extremely unfair, and the last average on our Chinese test was about 40%, now you know there's something wrong, because the people who take chinese in the first place are extremely bright people, people who want a challenge. I conducted a survey and the average studying was 3-6 hours a night the days before the test. That should be more than enough to ace a test for an elective.

    She gave us a lecture how its the classes fault that everyone failed not hers, so "NO RETAKE".

    Then immediately the next day we get an opportunity to get 25 extra credit points thats enough at this point in the semester to get from a D to an A, easy. Of course everyone signs up.

    Myself and a few other students start getting suspicious when she wants us to sign this consent form, saying that we understand the "minimal risk" involved in taking part in her "study" for her "thesis". Now I'm like hey, this wasn't part of the deal, then I read deeper into the fine print. And its specifically a thesis on how Asian Americans cooperate in groups when solving a problem.

    The first dilemma arises, if this thesis is only supposed to be for Asian Americans, isn't that discrimination? Also when we signed the consent form we had to clearly state our ethnicity and take a survey on "cooperation". However all white/latinos/blacks are obviously encourage to join, but I'm assuming they won't have an constructive part in the survey, because it clearly states her thesis is soley based on Asian Americans. She probably just offered that to not offend people.

    The first day, we're put into groups of 5 and we're treated like lab rats she has a recorder on each table to get every single word we say. Then she gives us a complicated algebraic equation in chinese and asks us to work together to solve it then give a presentation.

    My problem is that there were a few disputes during the course of solving the problem and I'm curious whether this will affect her paper, I don't want her saying something like "Asian Americans are aggressive when working in groups and are always trying to dominate because of their culture".

    Second of all isn't this illegal, it's a conflict of interest, she offers extra credit points to people who will be her guinea pigs on a racially stereotypical study. We're just high school students, and for all we know shes trying to see how long it takes a group of chinese-americans to solve a math problem that took a chinese 3rd grader 5 minutes.

    The consent forms and all that are just creeping me out, I conducted another survey between fellow members of her experimental group and like me we were all pressured into joining the group because we felt there was no other way to maintain an A in the class, even though we all worked 8 hours a day we would still fail the tests.

    I don't know what do to, it's pretty racist even from the start assuming that asian kids communicate/cooperate differently than white kids, we're all mostly ABC (American Born Chinese). This teacher is like new to the U.S. and she doesn't understand we consider ourselves american too.
     
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    This is nothing related to the topic. But I'm really just curious, are you taking Mandarin Chinese or some other Chinese Dialect, for example Cantonese or Shanghainese? Also, please don't count this as spam, I really don't mean to spam.

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    She's probably got an assignment from UNI and thought that using her students would be an easy way to get data.

    sounds like she is insensitive (rough background?), its not illegal... but if you had a serious word to your principle i am sure she will get spoken too and perhaps ease off a little.
     
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    That is really creepy. Do you think she created a extremely hard test so that everyone would fail and submit themselves to her "extra credit"?
     
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    Find another teacher that is able to look over your test to examine the test. A low class average indicates that either you guys are not learning properly or there is something wrong with the way she is teaching. Bring this up with the school counsellor if she is not willing to resolve this issue. I am not saying she has to offer you a retest, but she has to prove that the tests given were fair.

    Educational studies (surverys, interviews) done for academic purposes must be approved by the ethics committee done by that university. Bring this up with your school counsellor or the university ethics board about this if you think the survey is unethical.
     
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    It may be creepy and such but sure isn't illegal.
     
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    If i were you, i would talk to another teacher/principal.
     
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    I don't think it could be considered illegal, but you may be able to get something done by rallying a few other students and talking to an administrator.
     
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    0_o how can the test be THAT hard. well just go talk to the principal saying that her teaching ways are too difficult
     
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    thtx not illegal ... u just need to clear things up buddy!
     
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    Back onto the consent forms, if you're under 18 or 21 (what ever the age of 'adulthood' is in your country). Then you would need a parent of guardian to sign them or they don't mean shit. As you are not legally (in the courts terms) old enough to know what you are doing.
     
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    I don't know if its illegal. But it sure sounds sketchy...
     
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    Banned for evasion....rxcounterstrike
     
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