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Discussion in 'Something For All' started by already over, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. already over

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    Discuss anything regarding Iran (eg. their relationship with Israel, USA etc.)

    Iran is a self-declared enemy of Israel and its actions, there is nothing irrational in that they help Israel's enemies, it's logical. One thing is that Iran's solidarity with Israel's enemies, they have probably also not forgotten that the Israelis trained the Shah's terrorist police when it comes to Iran's relations with the U.S., it is also logical, do not forget that Saddam was America's man in the region. Israel and the United States, first as last only need to grasp the concept the fact that Iran has / will have nuclear weapons. They are welcome to bomb nuclear factories, they might be able to postpone it one year or two, but next time they will dig down only deeper.

    Meanwhile, the opposition has united with the government in a rage over the bombing, and Iran is more united and stronger than ever. Bombing will almost certainly lead to that all cooperation with Russia and China on sanctions termination. Then they get the excuse they need to break out.
     
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    Well what's the problem of Israel and USA sticking their nose in Iran's business and bombing their elite police station? If Iran could prove Isreal or USA did this they have the full right to attack any country.
     
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    I'm pretty stumped with this nuclear programme. Iran is claiming they cannot use nuclear power but the USA/UK etc. are saying they will use nuclear materials for WMD's. Surely if Iran could proove they are using it for peaceful processes all would be fine? and if they are using it for WMD's why should they not be allowed as other countries have WMD's anyway? I'm not creating arguments i'm just confused by the different news channels etc.
     
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    I also find it quite ironic that USA critisizes, when the only one to use nuclear weapons in war are themselves.
    I also find it quite ironic that USA gives Israel green light regarding nuclear weapons when Israel has been in war with the most countries in Iran for over the past 20 years.
     
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    Iran used to be a really liberal, modern country w/ good university and everything, until in 1979 or '89, when they killed the shah and they became an oppressive regime that denied many UN sanctioned human rights.
     
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    Was reading that irans ministry of defense
    Rooted out 12 cia and Israeli agents.
    Might read up on it on bbc news app. Tense is
    A massive understatement to.describe our relationship with
    Iran right now. If they aren't careful they'll get a taste
    Of what the golden eagle is capable of. (750billion$/year millitary budget).
    P.s. oh wait that's just our defense budget. LOL. GF totalitarian Iran.
     
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    Israel are pressuring U.S. all the time that they must be included. Israel has shown weakness in recent years, they are no longer what they were. It's like saying, after 20 years for just shooting at children in Gaza and the West Bank so goes some of the military capacity down. It was also seen in 2006. Israel's strongest card is the Jericho missiles, but Iran has a number of missiles themselves that they can fire and Arrow-ABM system can not stop them, only some small percentage. Since Israel is so small in area and it will not take many rockets to "destroy" Tel Aviv and a few other cities.

    Which means that Israel is entirely dependent on when the fighter aircraft to do the "rough work", and they must prepare themselves for some parts not returning back, something Israel is not willing to sacrifice.

    Even the USA's defense minister denies attack and believes that tougher sanctions are the way to go.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/11/leon-panetta-warns-iran-strike

    So now the question is whether Israel is running solo performances and they must be prepared to lose some air and make tens or hundreds of missiles at Israel, which is not exactly pleasant for a resident of Tel Aviv to call on one of those kinds of missiles .
     
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    Whole bunch of idots .
    Trying to get into a diplomatic agreement.
     
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    Israel has a very advanced military, and are more than capable of handling Iran. For a start, they made the desert eagle, along with plenty of other major weapons around the world. They have plenty of nukes if it comes down to that, as well as a pretty big intelligence operation and a well coordinated army. The main issue is actually getting permission to use their force, so its mostly a matter of retaliating right now.
     
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