If a tree falls

One of the most popular question around is

If a tree falls and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?

If you say it does than how do you know since your not there to hear it?

If you say no than prove it

 

Would putting a recorder next to the tree be acceptable?? Or is that like being there??

 

like being there

if no one or anything was around to hear it

 

Of course it makes a sound. Its just a question that confuses people. Its like saying, try to think of a new color. Not in the sense that its similar topic wise but the fact it just gets people to really think and get confused upon. Sound is waves that travel out and bounce off everything and when they reach you, you hear it. Its still producing sound waves if a tree falls, but when your not there to recieve them you won't hear it. Animals around it certainly would. Anywear there is a tree there is probly some sort of living thing...so noise will always be heard by something IMO.

 

still how do you know it produces a sound wave if nothing is around to hear it?

 

You could play music or make any other noise when no one is around and plug your ears so you can't hear it, but you know it is still making sound because if you unplug your ears you will still hear it.

plug your ears as a tree falls putting an animal near bye. You will clearly be able to see the animal reacts to the noise but you can't hear it.

 

The sound could stop when you plug your ears, and turn back on when you take them off.

 

We know because of previous trees falling and people being around. Just because no one is there doesn't mean there is going to be an exception, it means it will just go unheard.
Does a microwave make a noise cooking something even though no one is there at that time?

(Bad example)

 

true but also how do you know the music is on when you plug your ears?

just like if you close a oven, how do you know the light turns off if it doesnt have one of those buttons where the door hits

 

Ok like I said above about the animal thing. Do this. If you have a dog or cat or something living that has clear reactions to sound, then have it near you, get your ears plugged good so you can't hear any noise you make. Now hit things or turn on music really loud and clearly watch the animal react. Thus proving sound always exists even if you can't hear it

 

how do you know they are not reacting to something else?

 

If you see the animal react when you do it then you stop and the animal goes back to normal. then you do it again and again and see the same results. Its more of a common sense thing.

 

however it is not a fact

how do you know he is not looking at a person outside or something? and the guy outside happenly walked by everytime you turn it on and off?

 

You probably wouldn't understand, but you know how if you hear music loud enough that you can feel the music along the ground, just so loud that it vibrates? Technically, everyone and everything can hear everything and every sound that ever has existed or will exist. It's simply a matter of what magnification that sound needs to become noticeable to the recipient.

Do I win?

 

I just thought of a comparison.


Now think of a person with no tastebuds. He could eat a piece of food and say he can't taste it so then taste doesn't exist. When clearly someone else who does have tastebuds can eat the same thing and say it does have a taste. I know thats kind of confusing but its the same concept.

Your tastebuds give you the opportunity to taste things while yours ears to hear things. Just because you don't have tastebuds and can not taste something does not mean it doesn't normaly have a taste, and just because you can't hear something does not mean it doesn't normaly make a sound.

Confusing but if you get what im saying it then you will know the answer to this question is yes.

 

not another living thing is around while your doing it and your doing it in random patterns... ok you can keep making excuses for it but in the end it comes down to common sense of what the animal is reacting to.

 

It would not be like being there if you had a tape recorder. The tape recorder clearly captures sound waves so it obviously always makes a sound. saying otherwise is like saying gravity doesn't exsist when your not there when we clearly know its a constant thing. The laws of gravity don't change, the laws of sound don't change.

 

how do you know that it is not an earthquake or a dumpster truck moving by?

how do you know the food isnt cooked differently?
how do you know the guy with tastebud's food is cooked with flavor when the guy without isnt

this is the whole point of the discussion is for me to make excuses and you trying to prove me wrong more and more

 

how do you know that it is not an earthquake or a dumpster truck moving by?

That does not last forever and you can keep doing the same thing at any time over a long period of time and see the animal react the same way/similar.Also do it with many different animals to prove that there isn't a problem with that specific animal.

how do you know the food isnt cooked differently?
how do you know the guy with tastebud's food is cooked with flavor when the guy without isnt

Eat part of the same exact food the person without tastebuds eats off and repeat over many different foods...Everything has some kind of flavor.


I don't mind a little debate about this but your excuses arn't even logical or realistic.

 

how do you know they are not doing construction outside?
how do you know the food is not cooked where only 1 little section has lots of flavor?