Heaven/Hell

Can i just tell you that you are wrong on so many levels. Athiests do good for the sake of doing good, not because they are scared of hell.
What sort of morals are we teaching kids when we say be good or youl go to hell, not be good because you value your life and everyone elses.

If you need the fear of hell to keep you from doing bad, then your sad person, and god will see that your acting anyway. If you do good because it makes you feel good inside then your way more likely to go to heaven then you pretenders. So if there is heaven, more athiests will be there lol.

 

A common argument from Creationists, "look at our bodies. We're complex beings. Every single particle and molecule is too complex to NOT have a designer!" - if that's the case, then God must be even MORE complicated than us (providing s/he/it is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient), then God must have a designer as well.

Most people just seems to forget that what is eternal, has no beginning, no end. Either God is eternal, or our Universe is. I go with the latter as it seems probable to me.

Also, why do you believe we were created by God?

 

~What Physical proof do we have that either of them exist?none
~How bad would you really have to be to get sent down to a place to be tortured for the rest of eternity?unimaginably because god forgives always
~Do you believe in purgatory? (Place you go if you are not in either heaven or hell)no not for a second i think its stupid to think that (shredderbeam)
~Lastly, Do you deserve to go to heaven if you have never done anything bad.... BUT have never done anything that is considered an "Act of kindness".
you can do things bad because in the bible it says god forgives well it would be pretty hard not to do at least one act of kindness i mean get real

 

"What Physical proof do we have that either of them exist?none"
Mmkay...No proof? GTFO
"How bad would you really have to be to get sent down to a place to be tortured for the rest of eternity?unimaginably because god forgives always"

Give us a few examples of unimaginably bad things that we can go to hell for? Being born in a region where Christianity is not the major religion or doesn't exist? Or just being a rational person? (atheist)

 

thats your opinion of a rational person and i dont know because god forgives so much

 

No thats not my opinion.

 

i highly doubt those three words have ever been used in a sentence together before

 

Oh, they have.

It's actually one of my points when my creationist classmates try and annoy me.

 

i would have to agree i believe in god heaven and hell because i dont believe in just total blankness and i have always believed in god ever since i can remember

 

Can we get Shredderbeam in here?

 

Since when is Jesus a sadistic bastard? Since when does Jesus get sexual pleasure from causing pain to others? lol

 

Man created God.

 

From the cradle to the grave, from beginning 'till the end. We're all in this together, 'till angels descend. My dream is to know why my nightmares never cease, will we fly with the angels or will we burn with the beast? From the moment we were born, 'till the day that we die, we struggle just to live, hell awaits when we defy. Life can be a nightmare, if you dare to dream, we'll keep the core burning, are you ready to scream?

 

Im glad you know all this, b/c just like your saying we have no physical evidence they exist, do you have any evidence that it doesnt exist?

 

How do you get evidence on something that doesnt exist? Is there evidence that santa doesnt exist?

 

No, but how can you argue about something that you really have no clue about? Considering you cant really tell me that there isnt a god cuz you have no physical proof, just i cant tell you there is a god cuz i have no physical proof, the point is this is really a pointless arguement b/c neither side can really "win"

 

I believe in it. All.

 

^^

Why do you belive in it. all?

 

it's complete crap there has been no proof so i don't think its true...

 

explain, explain......or are you both hear to spam/get your post count up....some 1 should check the threads they have posted in their all 5-10 letters long

as for the Heaven/Hell i do not believe either of them are correct I believe once we pass away it's the natural way of ending and their is no more.