Abortion

Care factor: 0.

Why does a baby receive rights? Legally it doesn't have them until it is born, hence a moral perspective isn't valid here.

 

Oh yeah, let it rot in a building where it won't leave till its 18. Cheers.

My dad tried to kill himself a year or so ago. Personally, i was crushed. But obviously he wanted out, so why stop him?

 

Lol, you should just end your life speaking like that. If they couldn't bear the consequences, then don't do the actions. In the end, it will treat them a life lesson instead of the "easy way out" of things.

So much negativity, it's almost saddening.

 

Why is it sad?

and why do you say so much negativity?

 

Well honestly. the way i look at it is its nots murder till the 3rd trimseter
but in all seriously. there all ppl who are honestly carefull about having sex. and there are acidents that happen. and some people cant afford to have a baby. it is pricey if u dont have insurance. so abortion isnt a bad thing. its your choice. its not realy taking away a babys oppurtunies seeing that its only a zygote.. not an actuall thinking being.

 

I'm saying what others "Want" me to say. What I think is confusing even for me, I'm probably the most skeptical person you will ever meet. I just don't speak of it or acknowledge it with others (what I think about and my unsure thoughts).

I had more but I erased it, it made no sense when I just looked at it to see if it did.

 

Lol, im saying what others want me to say? I am myself, not anyone else.

I have doubt in the world, because as a whole we are the most ignorant of anything else on this earth. If there is a chance to screw it up, we likely will. The worse are americans.

 

You speak of talking from a point where pre-thinking is welcoming, and yet, you never thought about the situation they may have been in, good or bad?

Sometimes, hormones take over, kid. Sometimes, it's not that easy to think about, "I may get pregnant from this". Besides that, you're a hypocrite. "So much negativity", yet, look at the words you typed not even 5 seconds before.

After a while, it's not only your body.

You believe that taking away a potential lifetime in exchange for avoiding a bad childhood is a good thing?

 

If the easy way out of things is a valid way out, I don't see any reason not to take it.

For example, I could take the express way out of a city or I could drive for kilometers around, either way I get out, but the express way is definitely easier isn't it?

Why should I end my life? Things are just starting to get interesting.

 

Life begins at conception, it is the taking of a human life. Abortion is wrong.

 

Consider the fetus: It cannot feel pain, and it is not conscious. It has no concept of itself. It has not yet begun to live out its life, so why is it wrong to kill it?

If you argue that you are ending its potential life, then the only thing that I can say is that we do not accord rights based upon the future of a being, we accord rights based upon its current status. A college student intent upon becoming a surgeon does not have the rights of a surgeon.

 

To answer you with a quote from Shredderbeam:

 

Agreed, I'm pro-abortion as well. A fetus is nonliving and has no concept of pain. If you're attempting to become an periodontist, but you have not received your certification, you are not permitted to practice. Mainly, much of my argument is; what's the main issue if the fetus has no concept of it's motor skills nor does it know what is occurring. The other point which attracts my attention is; if killing a fetus should be considered murder, why is there a separate conviction which is labeled as fetal homicide? There's no need for a new conviction considering that it's the same thing as murder. I disagree as well because certain circumstances require warranted actions; such as rape, young accidental pregnancy, and when someone has reached a level of intoxication which they cannot function properly.

 

Hmm, this is hard topic to take sides on as i havent found it a problem yet in my life, but the thing ot remember is:

abortion doesn't make you un-pregnant, it just makes you the mother of a dead baby.

 

I am pro abortion since as stated before the fetus can't think or remember its current state. When it is dead, it makes no difference. Plus in cases of rape and all that nasty stuff where the baby is unwanted, abortion is right.

 

Incorrect. A fetus technically isn't living to begin with - it is a part of the mother, it can't think, can't feel, see, hear or smell. It has absolutely no awareness of its own existence. Liken a fetus to a rock.

This is, until the 2nd (or 3rd? can't remember) trimester, but nonetheless.

 

What if it is up to the point of pain? I think I remember you once saying that babies have rights because they're going to be rational when they're older. Why is it that the line is drawn after the fetus/child comes out? It is the Woman's body, but it is also the body of a future person that has rights. And one of those rights, is the right to live.

EDIT: I should read more, lemme edit after I read other comments

EDIT:

Who is to say when life truly begins? A child of two has the right to live, even though he might not understand it. The fetus does not have a concept of itself, true, so what is the difference?

 

What about the sperm which does not become a child upon ejaculation, or the egg that is lost during menstruation? Surely these are potential, future people!

Your argument does not apply.

 

its good for people who cant afford the cost of living for there child and would be bringing them up in extreme poverty and also to rape victims, imo adoption>obortion but i dont no much about orphanages and how many people adopt to the amount of kids that get put up for adoption, tbh its the child bearers choice, i think a mother would no best for her child and the curcumtances of its life and birth

alot of people are gonna judge my comment and bring some facts up or stuff, this post is imo im not telling people what to do so stfu

 

I suggest you learn proper English before posting.

Your opinion is more or less on the fence though from what I interpreted; you don't really agree with it but you aren't going to stop it from happening. At least you aren't one of those zealous idiots.