Mods have different standings on same situation

[ßitch]

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=9366962&postcount=2


corsob said that wulfpsade quoted it on usairways appeal saying that is true, or some crap,

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=9366973#post9366973

Is that thread where 2 mods have 1 stance on that but look here?


basically that says that if 2 people partner only the scammer gets in trouble which plznate stated and theres LOTS of scams with partners only 1 person banned who scammed,

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1143231&highlight=dalpra

Plznate says dalpra is not in trouble and fireZ says that ruling stands can we set one of these in stone instead of having double standars this isnt to bash any mod but this doesnt seem to fair.

inb4bannedforevasionbecauseiknowmoreinfoandimsufsfrindandotherpeoplefriendsishandshit

 

[cosrob97]

When wulf and I discussed it, we took the example of Hookups who was banned for the same thing.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1179629&highlight=hookups

Showing his partner's msn
http://www.sythe.org/showpost.php?p=9201214&postcount=10

 

[ßitch]

When wulf and I discussed it, we took the example of Hookups who was banned for the same thing.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1179629&highlight=hookups

http://www.sythe.org/showpost.php?p=9201214&postcount=10

So, why was dalpra not banned? because he is a mod? How about r2 when his partner scammed I presume r2 will owe money to stay unbanned or dalpra has to pay back?

Again, in no way am I bashing any mod or anyone you all do a good job here, but I am trying to make it fair.

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ßitch, cosrob97, JohnK, video
The thread of gods.

 

[video]

I too noted this. Vader or not, it's a very valid point. Dalpra's partner scammed billions, SOLELY BECAUSE HE HAD A VOUCH FROM DALPRA, and yet dalpra wasn't held accountable. That means that I can just call anyone my partner, and if they scam, I'm just like, oh well.

Obviously it's misleading. If someone sees someone being vouched by a global moderator as "being their partner" then they're gonna trust them a hell of a lot more. Same thing happened with a partner of R2P who bought an account and then scammed a while back.

Maybe if you're gonna claim someone as your partner, say something like "So-and-so is my partner, but I am not responsible if they scam" that way there's no confusion.

For the record, I also have a partner but I will take full responsibility should he scam (which he won't).

Link to dalpra's partner's thread:
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1141810

 

[cosrob97]

R2 was told to repay the user, but what happened from there I have no idea.

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=7325587&postcount=49

 

[ßitch]

I too noted this. Vader or not, it's a very valid point. Dalpra's partner scammed billions, SOLELY BECAUSE HE HAD A VOUCH FROM DALPRA, and yet dalpra wasn't held accountable. That means that I can just call anyone my partner, and if they scam, I'm just like, oh well.

Obviously it's misleading. If someone sees someone being vouched by a global moderator as "being their partner" then they're gonna trust them a hell of a lot more. Same thing happened with a partner of R2P who bought an account and then scammed a while back.

Maybe if you're gonna claim someone as your partner, say something like "So-and-so is my partner, but I am not responsible if they scam" that way there's no confusion.

For the record, I also have a partner but I will take full responsibility should he scam (which he won't)

Not a vader, Ill get on msn tommrow the one you have added and msg you.
It seems either everyone who had a partner who scammed needs to be banned and someone pays back or hookups and this person be unbanned as well. Unless dalpra get special perks for being a global mod and if he scams its okay?
Video, anyone you trust we have no doubt wont scam. I would trust you or your partner with thousands.

 

[video]

R2 was told to repay the user, but what happened from there I have no idea.

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=7325587&postcount=49

He never repaid anything and no further action was taken

 

[ßitch]

He never repaid anything and no further action was taken

Exactly, as well as I can give 3 or 4 more threads where people had there parnters scam and they werent banned lol.

 

[Deathsnova]

Lol i remember about a month ago when dalps came up to me at school and told me his buisness partner scammed a huge amount.
And that he was scared because he thought he could be held responsible.

 

[video]

Lol i remember about a month ago when dalps came up to me at school and told me his buisness partner scammed a huge amount.

Dalps cant be held responsible for it though, he was nagged into becoming a partner.

What do you mean nagged into it? That's an incredibly shitty excuse considering that $1500 was scammed as a result of this poor decision

 

[Deathsnova]

What do you mean nagged into it? That's an incredibly shitty excuse considering that $1500 was scammed as a result of this poor decision

On second thought, forget it. I shouldnt be speaking on behalf of him. Forget i said anything.

 

[Sin666]

My stance on the issue is as follows:

If two people partner for a service, and users are not given the choice of who fills their order, then one member is responsible if the other decides to scam.

The issue of choice is important. My logic is that in these partnerships, the lesser-known user is essentially just an employee of the trusted user, filling orders on the latter's reputation. And, just as I'd expect R2p to repay any scams instigated by the 3rd parties he contracts to fill orders for him, I would expect 'partners' (a misleading term, since partnerships are often not equal) to cover each other's scams.

Trusted users worried about such a rule should simply learn not to partner with random people.

 

[CrackFiend]

I know im new and all but I think some mods should post so people know the true standaard or rulel or thing.

 

^Vade more.

I'm not into **********politics, but mods get better treatment.
That's how it is.
Get over it.

Also, it's a case-by-case basis. It's hard to go off of no specific ruling and create a judgement based on one or two past cases. They're trying their best imo. There may be some favoritism because of modship, of course, but it's impossible to judge every case without SOMEONE bitching.

EDIT - How long have you been banned?
I don't know you at all, but that's pathetic. Why do you still know all of this shit? Just get a life, tbh dude. Move on, it's a website...

 

[Travis]

How is it when it was pigbow scammed me from pigbow + Tgump's quest thread last year only Pigbow got banned yet Tgump didnt get so much as a smack on the hand? If mods start a business with a person they should still have to uphold to the same standard as the rest of us.

Three examples on this thread where a mod partners up with someone and doesnt take any responsibility, yet regular members have to be banned for such things.
I know Staff get perks but isnt this just pushing it.

 

[Fayded]

How is it when it was pigbow scammed me from pigbow + Tgump's quest thread last year only Pigbow got banned yet Tgump didnt get so much as a smack on the hand? If mods start a business with a person they should still have to uphold to the same standard as the rest of us.

Three examples on this thread where a mod partners up with someone and doesnt take any responsibility, yet regular members have to be banned for such things.
I know Staff get perks but isnt this just pushing it.

I agree. Not that it's any of my business but if a mod with such high responsibility decides to partner up with someone who isn't a mod and give them all this "trading power" then the mod should be partially responsible if shit hits the fan.

 

[Lucster]

Coming from me i've only partnered up with one extremely trusted user, Nate. Anyways my two cents i've also seen weasel2013 scam as he was in a partnership with two other people i forgot who they where to be honest this was like 5 months ago but they got nothing.

 

[kmjt]

I don't even get why people partner to be honest, unless they are very good friends.

People who form partnerships should be responsible for each others' actions. They are no longer representing themselves as a proprietorship, but instead a partnership. Of coursed going on a case by case basis the member of the partnership who didn't commit the crime shouldn't be banned, however they definitely should be responsible for paying out.

 

[DG4L]

How is it when it was pigbow scammed me from pigbow + Tgump's quest thread last year only Pigbow got banned yet Tgump didnt get so much as a smack on the hand? If mods start a business with a person they should still have to uphold to the same standard as the rest of us.

Three examples on this thread where a mod partners up with someone and doesnt take any responsibility, yet regular members have to be banned for such things.
I know Staff get perks but isnt this just pushing it.

Agreed, Mods were regular users once just like us they had to work there way up to taht position, and once they work up to that there automatically ban-proof? No, If your dumb enough to recruit someone you dont even know as your partner and he scams, you should get a ban for sure, if you really dont wanna ban the guy cuz ur hard headed, just demote him and put a TWC...simple as that.

 

[Snow Patrol]

Once I get back to school I'll be partnering with a clustermate of mine, a good friend that I've known in real life for two years, if (which he won't) he scams, I will be stating that I am to be held responsible as well.

I don't know why people would partner up with randomers that they've never met or affiliated themselves with, but if one of them scams, I don't see why both parties shouldn't be held responsible.