Dispute a Ban Forum

[FretsOnFireGh2]

Inventor's Dispute Threads:
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=717436
Date Posted: 11-13-2009
Date a Moderator replied: 11-13-2009

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=717516
Date Posted: 11-13-2009
Date a Moderator replied: 11-14-2009

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=717390
Date Posted: 11-13-2009
Date a Moderator replied: 11-13-2009

Now, let's look at some other disputes.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=678408
Date Posted: 8-24-2009
Date a Moderator replied: Never

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=685529
Date Posted: 9-8-2009
Date a Moderator replied: Never

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=684522
Date Posted: 9-6-2009
Date a Moderator replied: Never

There are probably way more, but I don't feel like looking through every page of the Dispute Forum for them.

My suggestion is this:

Mods should stop focusing on certain "more important" members, and give everybody an equal opportunity to be unbanned. Inventor's disputes were all replied to within one day. Why can't everyone's be like that? Why does he get special privileges?

I understand that some of the disputes that I posted may be re-posts or something and mods chose to ignore them because of that. So if I'm wrong, I'm sorry. But it definitely looks like Inventor is getting special attention. The only thing he is saying is "I'm sorry, it won't happen again, I'm not a scammer" etc., while we have users with legitimate disputes that are being ignored.

Like I said, there may be other factors as to why the other members' disputes are being ignored, so if I'm wrong in posting this I'm sorry.

 

[SuF]

Everyone knows Inventors story. Thats why we reply... We already know about the situation. >_>.

 

[FretsOnFireGh2]

Everyone knows Inventors story. Thats why we reply... We already know about the situation. >_>.

RULES:

1. You are entitled to express your opinion about a ban and/or a decision made inside this forum, however whether you express it in a mature, respectable fashion will determine whether you get a respectable answer.

2. You must dispute your ban/infraction within one month it was given. After one month, the ban/infraction will not be reversed, and the dispute will be denied. (Not sure if it's been one month, but I'm pretty sure it has)

3. All decisions made by the staff are final.

4. Do not try and use the excuse "it was not on the rules page," as the moderators have the right to ban you if they see fit. The rules list is not final. It can be edited any time, without notice.

5. Only post ONE dispute for your ban/infraction. If your thread is locked, do not create another one.

6. Post as a guest if your account is banned. If you are IP banned, please ask a friend to make a dispute for you.

7. You are responsible for your IP address, and if there's a banned account on your IP, you are liable to be banned for ban evading. We can't do anything about this.

8. If you are banned, do not create another account. You can post as a guest.

9. Please state your username WITHIN your dispute. If we don't know who the dispute is about, we'll just ignore it.

10. ''I didn't know about the rule'' is not an appropriate response to a ban. As a member of Sythe.org, you are expected to have read the rules.

And what is the reason that he is also exempt from these rules?

EDIT: Also, I see tons of threads saying "I was a trusted member, I made one mistake and scammed one time. I've learned my lesson, I promise if I come back I won't scam anymore" that are closed. Because Inventor was more trusted than these users, a similar dispute is worth more coming from him?

And Sythe is always talking about how other sites are corrupt. Honestly, I believe that letting Inventor come back because "everybody already knows his story" even after he scammed is a prime example of corruption.

 

And what is the reason that he is also exempt from these rules?

Inventor never got a chance to see proof of why he was banned.

All the other people that get banned are banned for doing something stupid. (ex. Scamming, Phishing, etc.)

Inventor was pretty much set up by WoW is Fun Fun.

 

[FretsOnFireGh2]

Inventor never got a chance to see proof of why he was banned.

All the other people that get banned are banned for doing something stupid. (ex. Scamming, Phishing, etc.)

Inventor was pretty much set up by WoW is Fun Fun.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that other people post a dispute saying that they didn't do something, moderators show them proof that they did something wrong, and then the dispute is closed?

If so, why not just skip the whole dispute step and keep Inventor banned? He was admittedly wrong. Nobody else gets to use the "I promise it won't happen again" thing after they've been supplied proof.

 

I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that other people post a dispute saying that they didn't do something, moderators show them proof that they did something wrong, and then the dispute is closed?

If so, why not just skip the whole dispute step and keep Inventor banned? He was admittedly wrong. Nobody else gets to use the "I promise it won't happen again" thing after they've been supplied proof.

I honestly do not know what you said.

 

[Feren Silver]

Everyone knows Inventors story. Thats why we reply... We already know about the situation. >_>.

Why not read into other peoples disputes then? I mean if you know Inventor is guilty, what's the point of spending the time on it?

Inventor never got a chance to see proof of why he was banned.

All the other people that get banned are banned for doing something stupid. (ex. Scamming, Phishing, etc.)

Inventor was pretty much set up by WoW is Fun Fun.

Don't make Inventor out to be a victim here. He bribed Draggin to "give him rights" to the images, so he wouldn't be banned for it. He was given the proof, which only was a one month ban. He was perm banned for bribing members to remove the one month ban.

Frets does make a good point though. Why are his disputes even being answered, when it's clearly going against what the rules state. My personal opinion is he shouldn't be allowed to come back for the simple fact that he has a running history or doing stuff (magical missing donations and so on).

I support this idea.

 

[SiCk V2]

Support.

 

[Two Legit Two Quit]

support but never going to happen.

 

[NuckingFuts]

I support I see many unread disputes I think the mods should just stop being lazy and take care of some real stuff if it is more moderators you need there are many legit contibuters that could qualify. I dont want to come across as being a staff hater I do actually think they keep the community quite safe and they are pretty nice people I just think they should work more on looking at disputes and cleaning up some locked threads instead of posting on threads. Feel free to disagree with me.

 

[SuF]

The inventor situation is not a matter for you guys to discuss.

All of those replies were the mods giving their opinion on a ban they already knew about. Figuring out a ban that you have no idea about is hard unless you find out who banned them and talk to the moderator...

 

[!Almost!]

I wish some one would unban me.....

 

[Jimmy]

Inventor was pretty much set up by WoW is Fun Fun.

Lol.. Wow Is Fun Fun did try to get him banned, but it was his stupid move that got him the temp, and his stupider move that got him permed.

I'm a bit confused as to what the op is saying. Are you saying that mods should spend more time on unanswered disputes, as opposed to disputes from people like Inventor who's appeal time has already been exceeded, and who's disputes have already been denied?

 

[FretsOnFireGh2]

Lol.. Wow Is Fun Fun did try to get him banned, but it was his stupid move that got him the temp, and his stupider move that got him permed.

I'm a bit confused as to what the op is saying. Are you saying that mods should spend more time on unanswered disputes, as opposed to disputes from people like Inventor who's appeal time has already been exceeded, and who's disputes have already been denied?

Yes. That and they respond to his disputes immediately, while we have people who's disputes go unanswered for months.

The inventor situation is not a matter for you guys to discuss.

Nobody here is saying "Inventor (should/should not) be banned."

Whether or not he remains banned is irrelevant. It's the amount of attention that he's getting from mods while other users get little to none.

 

[Feren Silver]

The inventor situation is not a matter for you guys to discuss.

All of those replies were the mods giving their opinion on a ban they already knew about. Figuring out a ban that you have no idea about is hard unless you find out who banned them and talk to the moderator...

But if the original decision was a ban, what's the point of even replying to the disputes now? We are using him as an example for the way in which bans are handled. Plus why isn't it a right for me to discuss his ban?

Lol.. Wow Is Fun Fun did try to get him banned, but it was his stupid move that got him the temp, and his stupider move that got him permed.

I'm a bit confused as to what the op is saying. Are you saying that mods should spend more time on unanswered disputes, as opposed to disputes from people like Inventor who's appeal time has already been exceeded, and who's disputes have already been denied?

My thought, but then again what do I know. :huh:

 

[Looney429]

IMO It seems like a mod(s) had something to do with it, I support this notion! :-D

 

[Janek]

Alot scammers still earning money here and they cant get banned, omg ban this guy already, i have posted it like week ago :S http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=715958

 

[FretsOnFireGh2]

Alot scammers still earning money here and they cant get banned, omg ban this guy already, i have posted it like week ago :S http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=715958

That's a scammer report, not a ban dispute. But I suppose time could be spent in that section as well >_> lol.

 

[jCash]

What about deacon, his appeal is unanswered and he is a very well known sythe member.

 

[xi momo xi]

What about deacon, his appeal is unanswered and he is a very well known sythe member.

Who is deacon? XD