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I know I posted this in the spam forum but this Xiero guy really thinks he is correct lol


So he basicly just said this to me.

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Which is exactly what he has been doing lol.

First making claims that are just outright stupid.

Then he quoted me a verse (he deleted the post after my response) which was taken out of it's context.

Then in PM he quoted me another verse which he thinks allowes men to beat woman based on a single word.

And he is accusing me of twisting words lol.
 
"and beat them" should be taken in it's literal sense. Not given an extraordinary interpretation. The words are to be construed in light of their surrounding context and as such provide that the word 'beat' wouldn't including telling someone to 'beat it'. That isn't the type of language that the writers of the Quran would have intended. But who am I, I only studied comparative law for a trimester.
 
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For reference:

Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

You are shaming the victims, you sexist misogynist pig!

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"and beat them" should be taken in it's literal sense. Not given an extraordinary interpretation. The words are to be construed in light of their surrounding context and as such provide that the word 'beat' wouldn't including telling someone to 'beat it'. That isn't the type of language that the writers of the Quran would have intended. But who am I, I only studied comparative law for a trimester.


The question here is who translated it as "beat them". The Quran was not written in English. Also you have to look at it as a whole, not one single word of verse. Read the whole chapter.

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You are shaming the victims, you sexist misogynist pig!

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Im done arguing with you, I tried being patient and tried helping you. It's too late for you tho, you're completely brainwashed.

One last thing, If someone kills 100 people (let's hope no1 does ) and says Xier0 from Sythe inspired me and I worship him bla bla.

You are guilty right? Well you should be in your way of thinking.

And ask your governement to stop funding & creating terrorist groups then maybe it may stop.

Try watching this : https://www.facebook.com/UniversalFreePress/videos/1109286879117550/?fref=nf
 
I'm taking it from what you've sourced. And if that's your source to your argument I assume you believe it's correct and as such, 'beat them' would be limited to physically manhandling a woman.
 
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I'm taking it from what you've sourced. And if that's your source to your argument I assume you believe it's correct and as such, 'beat them' would be limited to physically manhandling a woman.

Not blaming you for anything, it's Xiero his source but it's wrong.
Look at this :

The Arabic word used in Noble Verse 4:34 above is "idribuhunna", which is derived from "daraba" which means "beat". The issue with all of the Arabic words that are derived from the word "daraba" is that they don't necessarily mean "hit". The word "idribuhunna" for instance, could very well mean to "leave" them. It is exactly like telling someone to "beat it" or "drop it" in English.

^ is from : http://www.islamawareness.net/Wife/beating1.html
I hope you understand what im trying to say tho.
 
Wait chec are you Muslim?
 
I liked reading this, and I like the points you made Chechen. This just goes to show that everybody interprets things differently and its all about perspective.

But in my opinion on this (please don't twist what I say) is that I know for sure there is a passage somewhere along even in the Christian bible about how women are supposed to be obedient to men and that we are to take care of them like a shepherd does his herd. So I am with Chechen here on this one.
 
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I liked reading this, and I like the points you made Chechen. This just goes to show that everybody interprets things differently and its all about perspective.

But in my opinion on this (please don't twist what I say) is that I know for sure there is a passage somewhere along even in the Christian bible about how women are supposed to be obedient to men and that we are to take care of them like a shepherd does his herd. So I am with Chechen here on this one.

Thank you.

As you said if someone doesn't like you/something, they'll always find a reason to accuse you/it of something.
 
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m9 I like that you're defending ur position but making a spam forum post probably wasnt the smartest move
 
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Dont shoot innocent people while they watch a soccer game please.

I know right? Allah commanded them to crucify us and chop off our hands and feet remember?

Quran5:33 said:
The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.
 
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As a former casino operator and current brewery worker, FUCK OFF. Banning alcohol and gambling, lmao.



Of course you do.

Go cry some more, it's banned because it's bad for your health and wallet.
Way better than the fact that your government does nothing else than bad things (especially Bush etc...)
but requested close on this thread already so you'll have to find some place else to go cry

Also im assuming you ran out of your stupid arguments so you have to act even more retarded with posts like above?
 
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