US has highest rate of prisoners in the world -- higher than China

there is obviously a problem, but is it the crimes they are incarcerated for, or the length of the sentencing?
then again you could say that this is a result of a more effective law, with more people who deserve to be behind bars, actually being in prison.

 

Alot of the American Boys are Hyped up and have got the wrong things in thier head. I See they are mainly on the coasts(Prisons) which tells me Alot has to do with the East Side West Side. If you could dig up a list of incarcerations under 25, America will top thelist by a Mile. So Sad they go to Iraq and Afghanistan and leave their own country Behind.

 

I wonder when They are going to Crack down more or internet laws such as SCAMMING.

 

So that is why they call America 'land of the free'?
But what caused the major increase in prisoners between 1980 and now? Because the article said crime rates dropped.

 

we're meant to be discussing why, not what else they could do.

i agree with the coastal thing, but on east coast, it carries into the mainland.

 

East side and west side refers to parts of Los Angeles, not the east and west coast.

They've started cracking down and pursuing criminals more.

 

The Drug War.

 

You're definitely not the first one to come to this conclusion, but I don't agree. The United States doesn't display signs of totalitarianism or general social injustice whilst compared to North Korea / China.

Sure, we do have a large number of prisoners, but we generally have a trail for each sentencing.

I have no doubt in my mind that you would be able to find a few obscene cases, but not many.

 

All i can say to that is im glad i dont live in US, its to corrupt. =/

 

Ok,

1) We are not a Police State? Why do I know this, because you are still alive and able to post stupid ass YouTube videos such as that without being arrested.

2) The US is not that corrupt....

http://www.data360.org/graph_group.aspx?Graph_Group_Id=478

3) It is obvious in those videos that they each resisted arrest, except for the last Police Video clip. That cop was a dumbass, but you cannot base your whole opinion on just one stupid person. Just because that guy went loco on camera and the whole world saw it, doesnt mean the whole Police force is bad. Besides, the kid was baiting the cop the whole time with the video camera in the back, I mean, who does that?

4) "Prison sentences here have become "vastly harsher than in any other country to which the United States would ordinarily be compared," Michael Tonry" This I lol'd IRL.

We might not have so packed of prisons if we actually had stricter penalties and actually used the Death Penalty. For example, these drug dealers that get 2-5 years then get out on good behavior/parole? WTF is that shit, they are selling drugs to these kids and other people that increase the rate of crime, divorce, and incarceration of kids. So instead of giving them 5 chances to stop dealing, give them 2. First time they get 6 months of hard labor, 2nd time its life in prison without parole. Maybe then that would show these wanna be drug dealers that the life isnt that great and the risk outweighs the reward..

On to the death penalty, we have it so why dont we all use it? We give these prisoners the death penalty, then they wait 10-20 years even to think about killing them. Enough of the wait, when they get sentenced, send em to the chair. We would lower the jail population significantly if we just grew a pair and used the DP. Using the DP more frequently may also push those who thought about commiting a crime back to the Legal side of life.

 

its sad that it is, but tbh what can we do. theres to many people out in the world thats so focused on greed + wealth that they will do anything to accomplish that, even if it meens to break the law.

 

Death Penalty and Harsher Punishments. IE) Hard Labor, no TV, no chance at education. Maybe then they would think twice about going back.

 

Lol
Within the last 2 months two city councilors in Boston (where I live) went down for corruption.

Why is selling drugs wrong? Why do you think you can tell me what to do with my body? Drug dealers shouldn't be in prison in the first place - selling drugs is not a violent crime.

[citation needed]
Even if that is true, it is because idiots like you tell other people what to do.

You moron.
Life in a state sanctioned rape house because they sold drugs? All that would do is drastically increase the prison population/

Facts are overrated, right Triggerfinger?

 

1) Just because 2 people in Boston go down for corruption doesnt mean the whole continental United States is corrupt? Besides, thats Boston. Im a New Yorker And did you even look at the graph?

2) Selling drugs is wrong because well drugs are illegal, duh. And we arent telling you what you can do to your body, thats why we have tobacco (SP?). The problem with drugs is that when you sell it to someone and they use it, they are putting themselves in a state which they might not know what is going on and/or not care. IE) Meth, Crack, Heroin, etc). When people take drugs they have the possibility to go on crime sprees, killing people, raping, robbing, looting, etc etc. No, selling drugs is not a violent crime. But people who take drugs normally do not have a steady job to pay for their "fix" therefore they resort to crime to pay for it. Therefore that makes you an accessory, if it be to rape or murder or whatever other crime committed.

3) Idiots like me tell other people what to do? Huh?

4) IF the first sentence was a hard labor sentence. You think they would go back to selling drugs if they knew that a life sentence of that awaited them if caught again? I doubt it, this would also sway the younger up and coming population from dealing.

5) As for your little graph, I honestly dont get what its telling me. Other than the states with death penalty have higher murder rates? So, maybe if we started using the DP they would drop, if not oh well. At least the prisons would decrease in population...

So what are you, for the legalization of drugs or something?

 

Ok,

1) We are not a Police State? Why do I know this, because you are still alive and able to post stupid ass YouTube videos such as that without being arrested. Oh, but you are, and you know he lives in US how, lol.

2) The US is not that corrupt....

http://www.data360.org/graph_group.aspx?Graph_Group_Id=478 No matter what a site says, look in the pentagon, for proof, you'd see how frickin corrupt they are.

3) It is obvious in those videos that they each resisted arrest, except for the last Police Video clip. That cop was a dumbass, but you cannot base your whole opinion on just one stupid person. Just because that guy went loco on camera and the whole world saw it, doesnt mean the whole Police force is bad. Besides, the kid was baiting the cop the whole time with the video camera in the back, I mean, who does that? Tehy have the right to resist for stupid arrests, hell yeah. Oh, and people who want to prove cops are corrupt.

4) "Prison sentences here have become "vastly harsher than in any other country to which the United States would ordinarily be compared," Michael Tonry" This I lol'd IRL. Btw, canada, doesnt have death sentences, and theyre usually proven guilty before theyre killed or put in jail, unlike US.

We might not have so packed of prisons if we actually had stricter penalties and actually used the Death Penalty. For example, these drug dealers that get 2-5 years then get out on good behavior/parole? WTF is that shit, they are selling drugs to these kids and other people that increase the rate of crime, divorce, and incarceration of kids. So instead of giving them 5 chances to stop dealing, give them 2. First time they get 6 months of hard labor, 2nd time its life in prison without parole. Maybe then that would show these wanna be drug dealers that the life isnt that great and the risk outweighs the reward.. The next step for your so called "Penalties" will be rape then death!, since people are killed for stupid reasons.

On to the death penalty, we have it so why dont we all use it? We give these prisoners the death penalty, then they wait 10-20 years even to think about killing them. Enough of the wait, when they get sentenced, send em to the chair. We would lower the jail population significantly if we just grew a pair and used the DP. Using the DP more frequently may also push those who thought about commiting a crime back to the Legal side of life. And they dont use that for everyone because not everyone deserves it, you ass. Stop trying to defend your country when your obviously proved wrong. -_-

 

Not saying it is, your post just reminded me.

That may be the most feeble argument ever. I don't particularly care whether the state thinks drugs should be legal or illegal.

Yes you are. I have some drug x which I want to use in the my home. Drug x is illegal.

Then charge them for the crime they commit.

I meant that drugs are only tied to crime because they are illegal.

It shows that the death penalty is not a deterrent.

I'd like the state to get off my back.

 

For christ's sake, learn to use the quote button. Then come back and talk to me.

K thnx

Well, you asked why drug dealers should be put in jail. I answered, drugs are illegal, selling, possessing drugs are illegal. Last i knew that when you do something deemed illegal, you face a penalty. That is possibly jail time.

Just because you use Drug X in your home doesnt mean it will affect others outside/inside your home. When you do drugs you affect your family, friends, your health etc. You can also, as I mentioned before, alter your normal state and turn into a monster. Which Meth does. So, for the benefit of you and other around you, the Gov't has deemed Drug X illegal.

We do charge rapists, murders, robbers, etc for the charges they commit. According to law, you are responsible if you sold that person an illegal drug. Its like with places that serve alcohol (3rd party involvement) If a bartender serves you Beer all night long and you leave intoxicated and crash into a house. The bartender is responsible. Same goes for drugs. You sell em, your responsible for whatever the buyer does.

Well legal drugs arent tied to crime often are they? When was the last time you saw this on the headlines.

"22 year old man goes on rampage after taking 6 Tylenol, 2 above the recomended limit!"

Or

"Family murdered by man using Viagra!"

Drugs are tied to crime because those drugs are the ones that affect ones state in such a way that the user would do something drastic.

It may not be a deterrent right now, but maybe if we actually used it...