Raising minimum wage -- $15/hr fast food emplyees

Okay guys, gona go on a bit of a rant here, perhaps stir up a conversation? Anyhow, been seeing on the news lately before the elections here that one of the big issues is raising the minimum wage. Obviously minimum wage employees are in favor, but why would anyone else be? Surely not out of the goodness of their hearts? No! Wrong! When the minimum wage increases, so do the union wages, by more than an even ratio do the minimum wage increase. Its ridiculous! So basically the dems here are trying to raise the min wage to help throw some more coin in their union cronies pockets, all while getting those kickbacks themselves. Mean while, John Q Fastfoodeater pays more for a burger at McDonalds because the 16 year old pushing buttons on the grill is getting paid 10+ an hour. I wish people could wrap their head around the fact that the businesses aren't just going to eat the cost of paying their employees more, they will just pass it on to us. Say you make minimum wage, you make 10+ an hour instead of 8.25 here in illinois. Your going to start paying more for stuff you buy locally because of your wage increase. It defeats the purpose.

The idea seems good sure, but it just doesn't work that way. Kinda like socialized healthcare :sick: Just screwing the rest of us, who are gona have to pay more for everything at the grocery store or where ever we shop. At somepoint there has to be a line between unskilled and skilled workers, they're starting to be blurred and its ridiculous.

Onto the next.

Okay now another thing that pisses me off, Fast food workers raising a stink because they want $15 and hour, are you kidding me? Really? 15 an hour to work fast food? Your an unskilled person wanting to make the wages of a skilled person, what makes you so entitled? Because the public treats you shitty and you have to cater to and clean up after them? Its your job, thats what your paid minimum wage to do, if you don't like it go to school or try to find something else. Lets say you get that 15 an hour to work at say mcdonalds, and then they pass that cost down to their customers, who in their right mind is going to pay 6 or 7 bucks for a mcdouble, when they can go down the road somewhere else cheaper. Just ridiculous.

You (self entitled minimum wage employee) wanted socialized healthcare to make health care cheaper for yourself, so now no one will employ you for more than 25 hrs a week to avoid taxes, so now you need more more money to afford to live. I guess we just hand you a big raise and say here you go, well just eat this one. No. Those handouts and freebies will stop coming eventually when we've broke the economy trying to level the playing feild for people who arent willing to work for a living.

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They should all get careers, not jobs that a teenager can do.
Don't you think if minimum wage is raised, other companys will start paying more also?

 

Exactly, if minimum wage is increased, the companies wont take the hit, they would just raise the price of their product, eventually fucking the people who buy the product

 

with the increasing living costs it's hard to live on min. wage. plus fast food workers work pretty hard believe it or not.

 

I dont think the minimum wage should be increased they are there for a reason to motivate people to pursue a better future for themselves and its a low skilled job, even a monkey can toss together a burger-

 

It's obvious that most posters in this thread never worked in a kitchen, and i doubt if they've ever worked a day in their life .

 

I worked in a kitched 2 years ago for 1 month and I hated it, too much stress, annoying people......

 

Not every random joe can handle a kitchen.

 

$10 is a good rate for minimum wage in todays times. Working fastfood and other unskilled entry level posistions does not warrant pay in the teens. Its minimum wage for a reason, want more money... get more skills, work harder. Better yourself.

As a point of reference, my first job was working at a golden chick (fast food) when I was 16. I worked there 8 months. Sure it was warm and sometimes stressful but it WAS easy. Anyone can do it. If anyone can do it, it doesn't warrant high pay. The low pay was incentive for me to better myself, and I did.

 

I've worked in one, very first job, and I also work now 5 to 6 days a week. Im not saying that it is the easiest job in the world, but it sure aint very hard. Especially if your at well staffed restaurant.

-- and yeah I agree with the fact that people need incentive to work harder and better themselves. Not everything in life should be easy.

 

Yes, people like you. A job at Mcdonalds is easy, ive had physically demanding jobs that are low wage on very tight deadlines and that is something that is rough

 

i think in bigger places (seatle for example) i believe that yes it should be higher because more business but small business would all die.. like a car shop in a town with populations less then 500 they would be gone.

also on different topic things like walmart are doing this too! local groceys cant kept up on cheap prices like walmart..... anyways that's my thoughts

 

Honestly I don't get why they think they deserve 15$ when any person can literally do the jobs they do.

 

I think that the problem with minimum wage jobs is that they are no longer for rhe younger generation who haven't been to school yet. As the wealth disparity in the US becomes more and more relevant more and more people are never able to afford college due to it's stupidly high price.

It's a very hard topic to judge because the goal isn't to make minimum wage jobs the norm. It is possible to find a career without going to college but it is much harder. In my opinion if the price of tuition dropped significantly we would see a massive benefit to the economy and, more importantly, a greater overall education of the populous.

I've worked minimum wage jobs before and they are what they are. People treat you like shit and you kind of feel like shit. They often times can be much more tiring than your average office jobs but if pay was based on how hard you worked than our technological progress would slow to a halt.

I think it is fine at 10$ but that isn't going to be the saving factor for many generations to come.

 

I'll lay this out and make it very easy for people to understand.

Want to make more than minimum wage? Do a job that requires more than minimum skill to accomplish.

 

This is hardly SFA material.

 

How do you figure? Looks like its right where it belongs.

Exactly^^
I only have an associates degree, but I make upwards of 80k a year, my job requires hard labor and is dangerous. Lots of factors change the pay, but being completly unskilled, and uneducated shouldnt warrant better than minimum.

 

It's just as easy as working in many general labour jobs such as factories, some factories get paid $20+

 

May be easy but its hard work. Far more labor intensive, and thus commands higher pay.

 

Factory work brings along more responsibilities, hazards, etc.. that's why factory workers make more money. The fast food industry survives because of its abitlity to produce a cheap product. Factories are different, they aren't making food to fill up their dollar menu's. They can pay and have to pay their employees more because no one will do that work for little pay.