Does Religion really cause wars?

or politics? or what does?

Discuss

 

Depends on how you look at it. Can an idea start a war or is it a declaration of war is it when people start killing each other?

 

I would contend that neither religion nor politics truly cause wars. The idealism behind religion and politics does not support wars - at least how they play out in the real world.

That said, warlike agendas are often pushed under religious and political pretenses, which tends to fool the public and works as a strong rallying cry for military support.

 

I say no they don't cause wars but, rather, have historically been used to justify war.

 

What about the fight for Jerusalem? I'd say that's a war centered around religion since 2 religious groups are fighting for "ownership"

 

the answer can easily be seen in the middle east. they've been fighting over religion for 100's of years. In all honesty i believe religion is the cause for 50% of our worlds wars. The united states is here because of religious reasons. Many of our first settlers left europe due to religious freedom.

(i believe all religions are bullshit. None of them r true. they feed on peoples hope for a higher power. Believe in yourself not in a magic baby born by a virgin whore.)

the catholic church is the biggest property holder in the world. Yet they dont pay taxes.... Non profit my fucking ass....

 

100s of years? not really

name me all of the wars that are because of Religion. The biggest criminals in the world are the governments and they do whatever because if fills their wants.

"magic baby born by a virgin whore." don't disrespect peoples beliefs like that mate this isn't the spam forum..

"the catholic church is the biggest property holder in the world. Yet they dont pay taxes.... Non profit my fucking ass...." what about your government bombing innocent children?

stop watching Fox news lol

 

Dominance causes wars. It is in our nature and nature of all living things. Plants even quarrel over select areas and have learned to adapt to certain living conditions due to being the less dominant species of plant i.e they lost the evolutionary war for the space. Animals have wars over certain mates, certain territory and all this is referring to a living better lives. This is the animal world and we have the same instincts as them.

Our wars revolve around what we consider "survival". Money, power, beliefs. Money and power have a correlation. Money gets things done this is a fact. Wars over land and other resources fall into both categories. Gaining of money and gaining of power. Wars over religion and beliefs exist in the middle east and have existed for many years especially in civil wars. While all wars are foolish these are especially foolish in MY OPINION. You're making you're own interpretation of a paraphrased book from a long long time ago. I'm not even sure how religion still has the following it does. A scientific paper loses a lot of integrity if "facts" it discusses are proven false. Meanwhile books can claim the earth is so young with so much proof against its age and the book still retains so much integrity in the eyes of some. Just my opinion but wars do revolve around people protecting their beliefs which at this point in time is pretty crazy in my opinion.

 

http://www.sythe.org/something-all/...tellectual-opinion-forum-you-will-banned.html
http://www.sythe.org/something-all/...tellectual-opinion-forum-you-will-banned.html
http://www.sythe.org/something-all/...tellectual-opinion-forum-you-will-banned.html
http://www.sythe.org/something-all/...tellectual-opinion-forum-you-will-banned.html

I agree with Entrr and Inch (and BGlave to some extend).

If you look at the wars of the 20th century the most common cause was nationalism or support of a particular political ideology. I would argue that most (or all) wars are caused by leaders trying to increase their power/wealth/dominance etc...

 

lol sfa is shit now a days and no better then the spam forum mate. I dont care about peoples religions because there useless and fake in my eyes. People laugh because indians and greeks believed in all kinds of different gods. I laugh because there is no difference by believing in god.

middle east is a religious battlle ground for THOUSAND years. ww2 with germans destroying every jew they could. few examples

 

WW2 as a whole was far from religious, the murdering of jews was just one part. Albeit tragic, it was not the main reason for the initiation of the war.

 

Religion does not cause wars. However, religion may and has shown to lead to wars. Religion casts people in groups (christians, muslims, etc. ) and conflict is known to arise when there are more than one group.

It is also the disagreements and unwillingness to accept the beliefs of others, combined with the irrationality, aggressive instincts and lack of teaching that causes wars.

 

If religion is the root of all these disagreements and aversions, then wouldn't that mean it caused the war?

 

I agree with this the most. I believe that in many wars Religion and politics have contributed in some way, but for the most part almost all wars are never started solely by either of these things.

 

Adding to my last comment. There is always an initial reason for wars. Most wars that happened in the past were for male dominance.

 

Religion/politics.

Them christian crusades.

 

Eastern Asia as in China/Japan? I'm unaware of any widespread religious warfare going down in those regions

 

However unlike other living things, we possess a capability to over-turn our notions of animalism that are often used incorrectly to justify even the idea that there is something natural about our immoral ideas of war and hatred which are themselves products of that same elevated sense of intelligence that we as a species mainly use negatively.

It really is a shameful cycle.

To the original question:

No, I personally don't think religions nor politics are the direct causes of wars. Hypothetically, there can exist a 'religion' (- an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence) that may not call for dominance over another religion nor person nor an established status as the 'right religion'.

I do agree with Entrr in that the root of the issue is most readily the desire for power and control. In such cases, religion is only the vacuum in which to contain the immorality. It also serves a second job as a veil for the masses who do not allow their innate spiritual intuition to take shape in their minds, more easily following an already established way which nowadays, unfortunately, is ridden with dominance, power, control, immoral ethics and snake prophets (the same cancers as politics).

 

To an extent, people don't just naturally fight over nothing.
Humans naturally avoid conflict and don't like it, this is why people start to "shake" when they get into physical confrontations. ect.

 

I can agree with this, you can try to escape the fact that religions do in fact cause conflict and war but it is true.