Won_Gold services attempts impostering with proof

Scammer's profile link: http://www.sythe.org/members/448604-won_ying.html and http://www.sythe.org/members/359370-won_gold-o_0.html

Explanation of the trade: I was going to sell some of my Darkscape wealth, I have traded with Won_ying before so I know he can be trusted... but then something sketchy happened and then he eventually "leaked" himself to be the imposter or somehow connected to the imposter

How they scammed:Attempting to scam me by using an imposter (the imposter is he himself or "they" themselves according to proof below)

First let's start off with Won_Ying's skype: Based on the profile link above (the first one) his skype is live:gaoying0102 - http://imgur.com/wmtmQBf

Then let's do with the imposter's skype: http://imgur.com/7fAxkJC - which is live.gaoying0102 (the difference is colon which is the real one and the dot which is the fake one or the imposter one)

How do we know that live.gaoying0102 (the dot) is the imposter one? - http://www.sythe.org/wow-gold-excha...wow-us-server-instantly-pay-pp-wu-mb-btc.html < based on this thread - or picture > http://imgur.com/PsicCjO (just in case he edited thread) and more adamant proof that it's an imposter skype > http://www.sythe.org/private-server...kov-buy-g-selling-shop-instantly-payment.html > picture in case he edited > http://imgur.com/Fx0piX4

So how do we know that the imposter is actually they themselves? -> I received only ONE pm, and that is good enough. Here's the PM I receive from the second sythe account (joined 2012, 3k+ posts) > http://imgur.com/VEPAzVB - Now notice how he wrote my skype as Coupe.Sythe. (an extra dot behind, I will explain why later) and obviously his skype in the PM is won_gold_gold (now it doesn't matter if won_gold_gold was their legit skype coz it's not the main point here) which obviously also doesn't match the current "imposter" I am talking to which is live.gaoying0102

But now here's the catch that he leaked. The imposter said he sent me a pm. He confirmed it was done and sent. Skype convo with the imposter: http://imgur.com/lFH96tr - This is sufficient enough to proof, I even highlighted that he said "sent" at 9:43am my time. The PM (link on previous paragraph) shows the "legit" sythe (the one with 3k posts) sending me a PM at 9:43am as well. I purposely not reply him and act as if I was busy and he sent another "confirmation" 2 mins later at 9:45 am (see skype picture) and he was asking "can u check plz" meaning whoever this imposter is, KNOWS that a PM has been sent to my account on Sythe. However, I only RECEIVED one PM which is from the 3k posts 2012 join date account. With the non-matching skypes of course.

Now what's up with the "Coupe.sythe." (extra dot behind) you might want to ask - Ah, now here comes the part with the first sythe account which is Won_Ying - a businessman I have traded with once smoothly, but pitifully exposed to such crimes. > http://imgur.com/OZgMiIe > this picture shows that he suddenly tells me I have an imposter which is Coupe.Sythe. at 9:34am after a few mins of casual chat (I started the conversation after this imposter added me)

Now here is proof that he HAS NOT PM'd me based on MY imposter's request (the fake coupe on coupe.sythe.) - http://imgur.com/UMM1CEs > in which he told me "IF" he sent pm I might have got it (his english is not that good as he's from China) > and here's ME asking if HE sent me a PM upon my imposter's request > http://imgur.com/kHVW4ci > I asked him purposely in simpler terms (to not leak too much) "u want sale 2.6m ds?" which is from the PM I received earlier, notice I asked him that at 9:46 am which is minutes after I received the PM, and here's him saying he did not, and he refused upon my imposter's request.

So then I asked him if the 3k posts 2012 join date was his account, and based on the picture above > http://imgur.com/kHVW4ci > he said it was their "main account", so it's somehow related, confirmed.

But now here's the thing, if you piece together the facts I have shown above, how does the imposter know that some 2012 join date 3k posts has sent me a PM WHEN the skype in the PM received doesn't even match any of our skypes? And furthermore, if this won_gold_gold was supposedly talking to my imposter (coupe.sythe.) at that point of time coincidentally, HOW does Won_ying (the only real skype I have added) know there's an imposter called Coupe.sythe. and the imposter even requested a pm from him in which he denied? And that I have sufficient proof that I have NOT added won_gold_gold before on my list and neither did this won_gold_gold added me either. And if this won_gold_gold is a 3k post 2012 join date, he should be clearly informed to background check me especially my threads for my actual skype name, but he didn't.

And if this won_gold_gold guy has 3k posts and 2012 join date, did he ever if he was talking to MY imposter request a PM from me? I have NOT sent him a pm, and this 3k posts 2012 join date with probably hundreds of vouches would oblige a minor like me with only like 4 vouches and a 2015 join date to send me a PM WITHOUT requesting a PM from me myself.

In this skype convo > http://imgur.com/wi8S0up > I asked the imposter to send me a PM again with the skype names correctly labelled, and he said "his manager" has already sent me a PM.

In this skype convo > the imposter framed me that I was "obv trolling" > http://imgur.com/HOTgHFJ > and see the rest of the chat convo where he starts replying "k" after I exposed that the skype on the PM doesn't match any of ours > http://imgur.com/wSEL5Ow > http://imgur.com/KSVgTYx > with no intention to contact "his manager" about the wrong skypes and to request a new one to be sent to me

So there goes, whoever leads this business organization has got A LOT to explain. Basically trying to scam me by having an imposter account add me but then leaked out that they are all somehow connected to the same "person" or "organization"

I hope mods can do something about this, to ban this guy and all of his alts including all of his service accounts which he may have on Sythe. His intention to scam by impostering is clear.

If there are any doubts that need clarified and I haven't explained, please do contact me and I will provide any information needed (skype chats are saved on my laptop) Thank you.

EDIT: Additional proof below

At 10:53AM, I told the imposter that I will be willing to sell him gold, as part of the plan to extract further proof (at this point of time I haven't told anyone I created this thread yet) > http://imgur.com/jUWsFxE and he tells me that the "workers" have changed. Shortly, at 11:04AM, http://imgur.com/aBQB5zL > this happened. Now you might ask what's the link between the legit Won_Gold adding me and me telling the imposter I have decided to sell him gold? This is the catch, I NEVER TOLD anyone else I would still be selling gold after all this mess. I only told the imposter. And that now this skype > live:won_gold5581 > a legit worker under Won_Gold services added me shortly after. Only at 11:04AM, after more than an hour has passed that the real Won_Gold realizes he has been talking to an imposter of me. So what's the deal here? Why can't the won_gold just add the real me instead if he found out he was talking to an imposter? My skype is in almost every thread of mine that I created. If none of this is related, then what is taking him so long to add me if he was really interested in BUYING my gold? And to only add me after more than an hour has passed since the time he realized he was talking to an imposter?

What is even more absurd and adamant proof that they are related is that the REAL Won_gold WHO pm'd me on Sythe said that his Skype was won_gold_gold, which is a legit skype under this thread > http://www.sythe.org/gold-swapping-...hop-swap-my-07-your-eoc-gold-200-donator.html > http://imgur.com/LN0kBUa but then if he pm'd me his skype was won_gold_gold, he wouldn't have added me with live:won_gold5581. The bottom line is if it was not related and that if he did add me live:won_gold5581 for the true intentions of buying my gold, then this directly translates into the fact that EVERYONE involved in this Won Gold services knows about what's going on, in which is me still selling gold. But this leads back to the very beginning of the extra facts that I only told the imposter that I was still selling gold.

What other concrete evidence can you back this up with? Ah, that's a good question. A good question always comes with a good answer. I talked with the ONLY REAL Won Gold services people that I have in my skype, which is Won_ying, at 11:06 AM. If you noticed, 2 mins after live:won_gold5581 added me. > http://imgur.com/IEkKKbq > he replied me immediately with a HI emoticon, now here's the trap I laid. I purposely didn't reply him for at least 5 mins. Now what does this achieve you may ask. Good question, the fact that EVERYONE in Won Gold services know that I am selling gold, he would have known that "his manager" added me just 2 mins ago. He would have asked and question me about my gold and whether I was still selling it or not.

Now here's the catch, http://imgur.com/uAOxm45 > after a short convo and me telling him about the thread I posted > 11:20PM is the most crucial part, he told me that after I told him "indirectly" that I got a sythe PM from his manager ^above, he asked his partner and his partner (or MANAGER) confirmed that he was talking to an imposter. Now over here, let's rewind back to the VERY first time I mentioned about his manager PM'ing me. > http://imgur.com/sjgKi5X > The earliest at 9:46AM. Another part of the convo can adamantly confirm that his partner/manager knows of the fact that he's talking to an imposter > http://imgur.com/msDwkif > at 9:49AM, he said three lines (I can't really make out his china english) but it's clear to the point that he knows his partner/manager knows that he's talking to an imposter. So the fact that only the LEGIT live:won_gold5581 added me after 11AM, almost one hour after the ordeal, this time span definitely suggests that something is going on there. Even after he confirmed he was talking to an imposter, if he was truly interested in buying my gold, he would have wasted no time either to find my real Skype and buy it. Besides, I have my skype listed in both of my gold threads (one veracs flail, and one 1m) > http://www.sythe.org/darkscape-market/1887603-selling-verac-s-flail-0-07-ds.html and http://www.sythe.org/darkscape-market/1886127-selling-1m-darkscape-gold-07-only.html, both of my threads clearly show my skype at the end and it clearly doesn't take an idiot or any dimwit one hour to find my skype in any of my thread. If he saw my thread, he obviously won't have added the imposter because who would even "mistakenly" or "accidentally" add a dot behind my skype.

 

Requesting reply from both of the accused. Due to their login times and high-profile accounts, 48hrs is more than enough.

If any moderator sees them post in a thread after this post time, immediately ban the account.

While your evidence may seem conclusive to the untrained eye, this seems to be a common misunderstanding of:
-Poor English-comprehending & typical Chinese goldseller mentality and antics
-Intelligent imposter
-Defensive trader

While to you, it may seem AHA, to them they're simply confused. It may be important to note that both imposters are the same individual.
http://puu.sh/kreXC/79dd3177c8.jpg
http://puu.sh/kreY6/be04557b45.png

This means that the imposter has knowledge of what you're saying as well as what the goldsellers are telling him. It's a typical scam, quite advanced and leaves many users, even experienced, vulnerable to scams via abusing pm-verification.

To the won's
Please post with your full conversation logs between "coupe.sythe" "coupe.sythe." and any of your skype's.

 

Both have responded.

There isn't anything solid here, it seems my first intuitions regarding the situation were correct. Requesting another moderator to view over my work and the report.

Leaving this open for additional evidence, if nothing comes up in a couple of days this report will be deleted.

 

It's a man in the middle scam. The imposter has 2 accounts, one impostering you, and one impostering Won_Ying. It's really tricky to prevent. People who have been doing it for awhile can time it and execute in a way which makes it near flawless.

Everything else is purely circumstantial.

 

No response, closed.