Fingerprint entry vs 2fa

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Fingerprint entry vs 2fa
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 28, 2016 at 4:30 PM
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    Fingerprint entry vs 2fa

    Is fingerprint auth becoming the new 2FA yet? Given mobile phones utilise them heavily and some (well, my) banking app use them instead of passwords now.. will it soon be the norm?

    Are there any cons to it besides it being a bit more tech-reliant?
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Jul 28, 2016 at 4:31 PM
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    I've only really seen them on phones so far. Don't think they're going to be huge in the near future but maybe in 5-6 years we'll start seeing some big changes including fingerprint.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Jul 29, 2016 at 12:17 AM
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    Bad fingerprint scanners (the ones on phones aren't amazing) can be tricked incredibly easily with some silicon and a raised fingerprint. This won't be an issue when it comes to internet hacking but it'll be a problem on a local scale.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jul 29, 2016 at 12:22 AM
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    I can't imagine there being very many technical issues with using fingerprint scanners. I think they work well in tandem with having some other form of security attached to whatever you're accessing. For example, having a passcode and Touch ID on a bank account mobile app makes it about as secure as you'd get walking into the bank branch or even accessing your accounts online.

    The only physical issue I've come across is with phone cases like Otter boxes. There is a flimsy piece of plastic placed over the scanner, and it gets air bubbles under it so it makes it more difficult to register the fingerprint when I use it.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jul 29, 2016 at 12:44 AM
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    I know it sounds like overkill but what it we could use BOTH 2fa and fingerprint.
     
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    That totally sounds like overkill. Our accounts don't have to be as top secret as FBI secrets or something. Lmfao
     
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    Given.. but it would be secure thats for sure. A phone, a finger, a brain, and a password.

    Side note: thats what she said
     
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    There are plenty of people who make a living off of Sythe, security is important.
     
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    Well you have a point there, but unless they're entirely running their account from off of their phone, it doesn't seem too feasible.

    Side note: If people are making a living off of Sythe, I need to get on their level.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jul 29, 2016 at 3:14 AM
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    Fingerprint would be used for mobile entry and to 2fa, sort of like a replacement for the code that's generated at the moment.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Jul 29, 2016 at 4:26 PM
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    Fingerprint entry vs 2fa

    Fingerprint scanners were on laptops before they were on iPhones. I remember everyone was going berserk over the iPhone's fingerprint scanner and then I remembered that a bunch of laptops had them first (the kind you would roll your finger down). Print scanners have also been around for a very long time, however, it has only recently been mass-utilized by the average person.

    It'll undoubtedly only get more advanced. Not sure if fingerprints will still be used, but I can see other more advanced things being developed. Face-recognition and voice-recognition are pretty common too.
     
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    Fingerprint entry vs 2fa

    You touched on the future a little bit within your post. I'd a college course that focused on future technology. Voice recognition is the future and is what researchers place under a category called Web 4.0. It will be used all over the place, including personal security.

    I believe information security is incredibly important, especially while owning a business. Setting up multiple methods of password protection isn't overkill, but necessary to ensure safety.
     
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    Well maybe more like, is 2FA and password protected and you can override those with fingerprint but the others are there if it fails. Fingerprint is just more efficient if it could be rolled out on lots of hardware.
     
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    Think of this, everything you touch is like leaving a 6 authentication code behind, there is lots of ways to manipulate fingerprint scanning.
     
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    I've made it into my friend's phone with a fingerprint scan lol.
     
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    I think I read somewhere that they've managed to get into one from an item someone held. When they leave their fingerprint on it, they scanned it and made a copy. This is a step level from what Art said. I can't find the article and I didn't really read much into it took look into its claims. But either way I don't think it's a better alternative, hopefully yet.
     
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    Fingerprint entry vs 2fa

    Finger printing hasn't been the most reliable when it comes to security or evidence against someone in a trial. It's highly likely that multiple people have the same print as you. Furthermore with the possibility of someone pulling your print the risk is much higher.

    Maybe have a sequence of prints in any order like numbers to gain access? For example

    Left Index
    Left Ring
    Right Thumb
     
  35. Unread #18 - Aug 17, 2016 at 7:03 AM
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    Some fingerprints scanners may be really dodgy, and easily manipulative-able.

    However, it is arguably going to be the future, whether you support it or not.
     
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    I wouldn't make it a base, but I feel it could be an addition to authentication. For example: have fingerprint then a series of questions to answer about yourself.
     
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    I surely hope not. I do not trust using fingerprint scanners as a replacement for pin codes or passwords. This is extreme af, but I would worry someone in person would exploit it, by using my thumb while im sleep, being held against my will or after I've passed away.

    My $0.02
     
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