Permission to repost my pardon request

Unregistered Josh0is0here · Jan 21, 2011

Finn said:

In 2007, Josh was an incredible staff member and had given so much to this site. He had previously scammed. His reformed character was evident in his dedication to the site, kindness, and willingness to help others. Josh confessed to his earlier scamming and was banned in the interest of fairness. Since being banned, he has neither caused trouble nor ban evaded. Contrarily, he still attempts to help out, and offered assistance to me innumerably whilst I was on the staff. Regardless, Josh was not pardoned.

Draucia, however, was. Where Josh was banned almost three years ago, Draucia was banned earlier this year. In his pardon request, he flagrantly ignored the rules of the process. He did not accept his offences and instead attempted to smear my character and justification for his removal. Despite his leaking from the Staff Lounge, ubiquitous trouble-making and support of Syed and others with due contempt for the site, Pen pardoned him. Iâ€™ve been meaning to make an issue of this, as the decision was made abruptly and without consulting me. Iâ€™m sure that Pen was aware that I would not have pardoned Draucia in a million years were I still on the staff team. Nonetheless, my ban was reversed. Pen did not consult me or ask why I had banned Draucia; he just went ahead and unbanned him. Juxtaposed with the case of Josh, this either demonstrates poor individual judgment or a flawed system. I do not feel that the former is the case, but rather that the approach taken towards pardons prevented the correct decision from being made. Had a collective approach been taken, I highly doubt that Draucia would have been pardoned in the face of a legitimate and good user like Josh being refused a pardon. This is because the expression of relevant information and healthy debate could not occur. As with before, a collective approach remedies this flaw.

I think you've missed the point. The juxtapositioning of the two candidates for pardon is what you should be looking at. I think we can both see which individual is more deserving of the pardon, yet the more deserving candidate went unpardoned.

In addition, if something being ''long ago'' (it wasn't, actually) now qualifies for a pardon, I expect you to revisit Josh's pardon request, or at least appropriately amend your position on his ban. He has been banned for almost three years.
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http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=973188

Please note staff, I'm not asking for a pardon on this thread I am just asking permission to repost my pardon request before the allowed six months because it was done under the old system.

Govind · Jan 21, 2011

Not sure whether I have the authority to approve your request for the 6-month thing to be not enforced in this case; I'll ask Finn.

FireZ · Jan 21, 2011

I wouldnt be against a repost

Karl · Jan 22, 2011

If the last pardon was given under the old system without fair review, and did have support but was vetoed by another Admin, then I agree that you should be able to repost your High pardon.

HamJam · Jan 22, 2011

Karl said: ↑

If the last pardon was given under the old system without fair review, and did have support but was vetoed by another Admin, then I agree that you should be able to repost your High pardon.
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Completely agree with Karl.

Louis · Jan 22, 2011

New system, new pardon.

Magic Arrow · Jan 22, 2011

I don't think he's allowed to.

Nothing against Josh, I'm pro his unban.

OldFinn · Jan 22, 2011

Absolutely. Post a new one, Josh.

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