Dispute #2 - Don't ignore me this time, please.

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  1. Unread #1 - Jul 18, 2010 at 1:37 AM
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    Dispute #2 - Don't ignore me this time, please.

    Before you read, please be notified that I had posted the SAME dispute and only Tyro and R33l2r3al answered, also asking for other staff opinions. R33l is having internet connections and for the past week, I've been trying to get other staff members to view my case, however instead, I get ignored while the other disputes that aren't even 1/3 as long as mines get answered...I'm sensing laziness?

    Please respond this time since I'm really getting fed up, I'm being punished for something I didn't do and on top of that, I'm being ignored.

    Original dispute link: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=868330

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    I was banned off the report of this person: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=868210

    I'm basically going to number all the things he said and prove that he has rather wrong.

    1) A) "His name on sythe is Eric L and he is scamming. he posted on my thread and deleted it..and it didnt say anything under his vouches now it says "i have an impersonator E A L [email protected] with the exact email he used"

    B) I did post on his thread, however, I deleted afterwards because we decided NOT to trade. As you can ask Spyike himself, he has told me to stop deleting my posts, because I used to bump my own thread and delete my post, I rather have OCD with keeping threads clean, lol. Anyways, we decided not to trade therefore, I deleted my thread - If you don't believe me about the Spyike issue, I still have the PM saved in my inbox, I believe.

    2) A) "how would he know he has an impersonator when he has no background from an impersonator? this guy is using 2 msn accounts to scam people."

    B) How would I know I had an impersonator? I was scrolling to the bottom to see if any staff members were on, as usual and I see the Report a Scammer section and obviously, my name was the first thread shown up. I viewed it, and he provided the MSN address as "[email protected]." I'm sorry, is he blind or does my account's MSN category specifically show [email protected]? I don't know how he randomly blames me for this?

    3) A) "LOOK WHAT HE POSTED LAST ON MY thread if possible..he told me he couldnt pm me on sythe..but he can post about it. then he took it off."

    B) Same as number one.

    4) A) All the screenshots

    B) Look at the e-mail above, clearly says "[email protected]"

    5) Now, let's say I did scam, which I say otherwise. I posted an ENTIRE topic about it in the Spam Forum. Uhh...??? If I was impersonating myself, wouldn't I keep it on the down low so I can have less people know about this "impersonator" and so I could scam more people? Yes, instead...I post an entire thread about it in the Spam Forum explaining what is happening as I was consulting Guide4RS. Not to mention, I also added the impersonator e-mail to my signature so people are aware of him.

    Link: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=868214

    6) Take a look at this: http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=6773544&postcount=6

    I'm Sleeping was my quester on my zerker. He blatantly stated that, that was NOT how I speak on MSN and that infact, that was NOT my MSN either...

    7) Moments before this incident, I completed a successful trade with Own J00 for a $23 traded, which involved my skiller for the $23 via PayPal. We both vouched everything, and all went well, not to mention he went first to me. If I was scamming, wouldn't I of scammed him as well? Seeing as this incident happened an hour or so after our transaction...

    Link: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=865881&page=2

    8) Most important of all...

    Alright, now...heres where I believe the staff made a big mistake on, well, not the staff, but, mainly the person who was the judge and the person who decided to ban me.

    Please, take a look at the scamming report Guide4RS made against me (Link is provided at the top of the dispute). ALL the report shows is a complete conversation of what happened ON MSN. It never showed anything in RuneScape during the trade, any forum speaking, or ANYTHING. Not to mention, the MSN was obviously NOT mines seeing as my Sythe account had another e-mail registered to it. Shouldn't this be considered as insufficient proof? Especially since nothing matches up?

    I was banned solely for the fact that my post had been deleted by me, which I had stated the reasoning as to why on number one, part B and I can full provide proof if needed to. Yes, this may seem suspicious, however, I have proof to show you otherwise.

    I would please like the staff to think about this ban completely before setting a final decision, as I deserve the staff had made a mistake in the banning of my Sythe account. I mean...I was even going to sell 62M RuneScape GP for $1.50/M for a grand total of $93 and I chose Tyr0, the Global Moderator, to MM the trade...honestly? If I was a scammer, I'd avoid any MM's and scam an entire $93 rather than measly pixels that can be replaced or earned within a days work or less.

    Please, take this into consideration, and I do not mind one bit talking with a moderator on MSN to help resolve this case. Please don't ignore this, I want to join the community.

    I'm trying to come as clean as possible and making this be dealt with ease.

    Thank you for your time, and I hope this problem will be overlooked.

    PS - I apologize for any typo's.

    Sincerely,

    Eric L.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jul 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM
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    Dispute #2 - Don't ignore me this time, please.

    Alright, I've reviewed pretty much everything I have access too, and I support my original decision of a ban. To be honest, there are too many little coincidences that would need to be overlooked.

    1. You did deleted your posts in both threads that you were reported for scamming (regardless of the second report not having enough evidence).
    2. In the first report, the time frame alloted for the scam to take place, and when you posted/deleted you post, is too small for an impersonator to have any chance of scamming in between.
    3. In the second report, you were asked to post on the thread, which you did, and the time does corroborate when you posted (based off the chatlog times). You deleted that post however, and reposted it roughly 9 minutes later.
    4. If you knew there was a scammer, at the time of the second trade, why would even be trading on Sythe? You shouldn't have deleted or posted on another market thread until it was dealt with. The fact that you deleted one of the posts, leads me to conclude you were scamming, again.
    5. You may claim OCD for deleting posts, however, if Spyike has told you to stop deleting them in the past, then why do you continue to do so? It seems to me like you incarcerated yourself by continuing a behavior you were warned to stop.
    6. I honestly don't believe any of those traders, given some of their own vouches and statuses here on Sythe, would continue a trade with you if you hadn't posted on the thread when they asked you to. The fact that you posted at those times, when asked, shows that you knew of the trade.
    7. In the second report, although a chatlog, you clearly state having just done a $23 trade with another user, when in fact, no where on the forums, did you say the trade was worth $23. Instead, you mention it here in this report, while also mentioning it in that conversation, which again, means you had to have been there, because no one else would know those details.

    This is my own personal judgement on the matter. I've taken a look at this more than once now and I personally feel this is the correct decision. I'm going to let the ban stand, as I'm waiting on a reply from some other users regarding this case. If the evidence is corroborated or not, will determine his fate. If another mod would like to post some input, I encourage you to do so.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jul 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM
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    Dispute #2 - Don't ignore me this time, please.

    Now that I wasted my time, however, looking at this ONCE AGAIN, the ban will stand. Thank you for ban evading on rsaddictx and saving me any future trouble with this case.
     
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