Re-inventing Name Sales

Hi,

I think the subforum Name Sales should get a major overhaul. The subforum has been getting more and more active, and it's currently at a point where your thread will get to the second page within a couple hours. There are multiple reasons and I will explain each one of them.

• Giving away free names
• Worthless names
• Activity

Giving away free names
One of the newest trends has been giving away free names. Since the last two weeks I've seen multiple people posting lists of available names. I personally think that the biggest reason for these people is advertising. Examples:
Topic: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1355356

Topic: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1352696
Topic: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1353846
Topic: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1355024
Topic: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1351585

Worthless names
Every day there are topics being made where users are trying to sell worthless names. These topics are just filling up the Name Sales section. Some of the times users mark them as "rare" aswell - which I'll get back to later this post.

Examples:
"Filmmaking"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1353749
"WinSomeDays"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1354848
"Berserkear"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1353723
"Gewd Life"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1351430
"lik3t0f1sh"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1349105
"Staking_Mils"
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1348215

Activity
I already talked about this in my introduction - but this is one of the most important factors why Name Sales such get an overhaul. There have been more and more people actively posting at Name Sales. Before I actually joined Sythe - and even when I joined - it was some sort of unknown section. But the times have changed and more and more unique people have been visiting Name Sales.

Because of this increased activity I think the rules should be modified.

My idea

• You can get infracted for classifying your name as rare when it is actually worth close to nothing.
• Free name lists shouldn't be posted at Name Sales but somewhere else, after all, it is Name SALES.
• A certain standard for name has to been set to avoid Name Sales being flooded with names like "Gewd Life" and "lik3t0f1sh". No-one is interested and it brings down the interesting topics.
• Another new idea has been the division of Name Sales into the following:
  • Name Sales General Discussion
  • Rare Name Sales
  • Other Name Sales
  This would take away some of the problems. At Name Sales General Discussion people could requests Names individually instead of placing it into a sticky. At rare name sales, well.. rare names can be sold there. The first point of my idea still applies though, people can get infracted if the names aren't rare. At Other Name Sales, people can sell all other names. But there has to be a certain standard, eg. correctly spelled names ONLY. Otherwise you would still have the problem of people selling names like MlNING (mLning)

I'm not completely sure yet what the standard for a Name Sales worthy name should be, but this can obviously be discussed. If my idea would get implemented it would make the Name Sales subforum much more enjoyable.

I have a couple of other minor idea's to improve it such as infracting fake bidders and infracting people that post two Name Sales topics within a certain time frame.

Opinions?

 

I support your first point, because an infraction should be given anyway for ignoring/not reading the stickies, specifically the one on what makes a name rare. The second one I'm okay with as well, because free giveaways aren't really allowed in other sections, such as gold exchange or accounts and the market should be consistent.

However, I'm somewhat ambivalent to the third. Yes I do see trash name topics in Name Sales but I usually just ignore them. It doesn't really take that long to go to the next page. Account buyers looking for a main deal with it all the time (the lv. 100-138 main section is 50x more active than Name Sales).

 

People have different ideas on what they think is cool, rare etc. but I suppose there is a difference between "Jungle" & "ProPker_44".

I really don't know if it should be in forced.

 

As of right now.
Name Sales (22 Viewing)
Characters: Levels 100-138 (23 Viewing)
That's roughly 1,045 times as active. Or you could say that Name Sales has roughly 4,4% less active viewers. However, there are more topics being made at Lvl 100-138 Mains then at Name Sales, that's true. But there has been a huge increase of people that are interested in names. I think it is a problem, but you can have your opinion ofcourse

If someone is interested in names like ProPker_44 he can simply change his name. Name Sales is meant for selling rare names, because they are all taken. I don't think there is anyone looking at name sales for a name that isn't rare - or close to rare. Unless they are looking for username log-ins. I'm pretty sure Name Sales was atleast meant for correctly spelled names. Eg. Inventing or Asymmetry are pretty decent names, and people could be interested - but they aren't rare.

 

i dont think this will work. i am frustrated too of the bullsht names people have been posting. even more at people that have semi-rare names but are selling for a unreasonable price. ex. sum1 was selling "bakery" for 500m.

any how, it all comes down to what people define a rare name as and there are many many many interpretations....

 

The Names Sections is too hard to regulate. If people don't want to buy the names, they won't, simple as that. So no support.

 

Yeah things will get out of hand

 

Filmmaking is worth something to someone Wouldn't go for anything over 3m though :3

No support :/ If you see a name like 6yoy67 for sale... then obviously it's spam since it doesn't mean something. It's a nice thought though.

 

To be honest, I personally think that this should have already been apart of the Official Sythe Rules.

The reason behind this is because of the existing stickied threads in place, particularly this one:

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=996383


If users were to read the stickies (this does not only apply to the Name Sales section) then I'm sure that the forums would be 'cleaner' then it is.


While on the topic of Name Sales, why is this thread even stickied?:

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1334354

Why does that thread exist at all?

It provides pointless spam and is pointless overall.

I perceive it to be pointless because it is basically a seperate 'Name Sales' section except it's in a thread, therefore it equates to the 'Name Sales' thread.

People create a thread in the Name Sales section about purchasing a name and then once that's done, they leave a post in that pointless Name Sales thread.

Back on topic to these suggestions, I agree with what you have proposed.

Maybe even a sub-sub-forum for 'Rare Name Sales' could be introduced.

Of course that's only a concept, haha.

 

I hate name sales, why make an acc and just to sell acc like how greedy can u get makes sence if u kinda want name forur acc...but i DO support but diff secrions ive onlyseen 1/500 threads about name generator shit. But unrare names are anoying as hell...

 

Well rare names are subjective, so to me Filmmaking could be a cool rare name because I am a film maker. Though to anyone else it would be stupid.

 

To be quite honest with you it doesn't take a genius to work out names such as 'Condescending' or 'I Pk U' aren't rare. If people read the stickies properly, and were more educated on what 'rare names' actually are, we wouldn't have this subjective problem.

 

Which means condescending would be a rare name and filmmaking as well. Though stupid names like i pk u or whatever isn't a rare name.

 

If you had bothered to read the rest of the sticky, you would have seen that dictionary words like condescending are not counted as rare. The guideline you posted only applies to commonly used words.

Rare names are already identified officially, and I really see no reason not to infract people who try to pass of non-rare names as rare

 

So you are arguing that condescending is not a commonly used words, I really beg to differ; it all depends on vocabulary. Filmmaking is also commonly used word. What defines a dictionary word? The guide is vague on what and what is not a rare word when it comes down to words. Root words are hard facts, but commonly used words are again subjective.

 

anything from that list should be intractable cause that's just post count whoring

 

What's your reasoning behind "I don't think it will work"? Can't really find the exact reason in your post.

It's not about buying names - it's about keeping the quality of the forum.

I was thinking about that aswell. That would fix a lot. Especially with the increased acitivity it wouldn't be a bad idea at all to add another two subforums. General Discussion could be used for free names / talking about specific names such as "Who owns the name "pker"?". Rare names can be used for selling/buying names that fit in the sticky. But I would change Unique/non-rare names to something along the lines of Other names.

• Name Sales General Discussion
• Rare Name Sales
• Other Name Sales]

I'll add it to the OP.

So your reason behind 'No support' is the fact that you think people are interested in names like Filmmaking, Generalizing, etc.? As far as I know you can't get infracted right now for selling a name like 6yoy67.

Yeah, more about the sticky where you can request names. It's basicly some sort of subforum within Name Sales. I just replied to BuyingRSGold aswell, and the name sales division would look like the following;

• Name Sales General Discussion
• Rare Name Sales
• Other Name Sales]

The Sticky would be moved to General Discussion because people could look in there and see if their desired name has been requested yet. On rare name sales, rare names that fit within the sticky can be sold. And at other name sales.. names that don't fit within the rare name sticky can be sold. I think there should be a standard though because you might get names like I_Own_Moms or something..

A division and slightly modifying the rules seems like the best solution.

They are partially subjective, but overall you can easily pick out the real rare names. Short words with a meaning such as Thug, Check, Power, Rune, Maple, etc. Other names could still be sold in the other section - but that's something I'm just about to add so it didn't apply to this post yet.

The problem is that there are still loads of people that are posting a topic like "Selling extremely rare name!!" and once you click on it you will see a name like il1k3tof1sh.. But yes, if people would read the sticky's properly the problem wouldn't exist.

However, there is no rule that states you aren't allowed to sell names that aren't rare. The sticky just states what defines a rare name.

Agree.

Mainly, some people have good meanings with posting name lists though. But so far, the main reason has been advertising.

 

I support, as long as the mods are strict on what is classed as rare and what isn't. I sticky would be needed to point this out. I don't think an infraction would be needed for a first time offence but definitely for a time after that. Maybe a 'Is this Rare' thread could be made to help users to see whether their name is rare or not.

 

I have updated the Name Sales rules to disallow name giveaways. If you see a thread containing just free names or anything of that sort, report the original post and a moderator will deal with it.

 

Thanks, a step to the right decision. (Not sure if it sounds good in English.. translated from Dutch lol)